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> <channel><title>Comments on: A Warning for DMCA Filers</title> <atom:link href="http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/</link> <description>Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:49:25 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: 5 Steps for Dealing with Stubborn Plagiarism Cases &#124; PlagiarismToday</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-130368</link> <dc:creator>5 Steps for Dealing with Stubborn Plagiarism Cases &#124; PlagiarismToday</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-130368</guid> <description>[...] (under the &#8220;Server Info&#8221; tab). You may find you simply contacted the wrong company or contacted a reseller that doesn&#8217;t actually control the server or know what to do.Wrong Contact Info: Many hosts [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (under the &#8220;Server Info&#8221; tab). You may find you simply contacted the wrong company or contacted a reseller that doesn&#8217;t actually control the server or know what to do.Wrong Contact Info: Many hosts [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: blogging tips</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-129692</link> <dc:creator>blogging tips</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-129692</guid> <description>thats a bit like trying to sue google for indexing..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats a bit like trying to sue google for indexing..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tualatin Web Design</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-128973</link> <dc:creator>Tualatin Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:10:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-128973</guid> <description>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tualatin Web Design</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-127955</link> <dc:creator>Tualatin Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:10:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-127955</guid> <description>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tualatin Web Design</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125620</link> <dc:creator>Tualatin Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:10:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-125620</guid> <description>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good example of how the internet makes plagiarism an even trickier topic than it already is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Have "Real-Time" Services Altered the Balance of the DMCA? :: in propria persona</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125597</link> <dc:creator>Have "Real-Time" Services Altered the Balance of the DMCA? :: in propria persona</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:15:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-125597</guid> <description>[...] more critical (in my opinion) importance of distribution to end users.Related articles by Zemanta A Warning for DMCA Filers  (plagiarismtoday.com)Google: Most takedown notices are illegitimate (news.cnet.com) Everyone [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more critical (in my opinion) importance of distribution to end users.Related articles by Zemanta A Warning for DMCA Filers  (plagiarismtoday.com)Google: Most takedown notices are illegitimate (news.cnet.com) Everyone [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125587</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-125587</guid> <description>I think we&#039;re talking about two different things. This deals with ISPs who rely upon other ISPs servers, not so much site operators. Allow me to explain:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you visit this page you can become a reseller for Hostgator (for a very small monthly fee): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hostgator.com/resellers.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hostgator.com/resellers.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This allows you to set up your own ISP with your own site, your own customers and your own corporation if you want. You&#039;re free to sell hosting to anyone who is willing to buy it from you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, let&#039;s say that you run such a hosting company and a spammer set up an account there. Every hosting check I do will show Hostgator as the host, not you. Therefore, I&#039;d file my notices with Hostgator unaware of your existence as a separate company and a reseller.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The question is whether or not Hostgator is obligated to respond to the DMCA notice. If we follow the logic of this case, it isn&#039;t clear. The reason is A9 is indeed hosted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://Amazon.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;, If we go by networking tools alone, the host shows up as Amazon (we&#039;re ignoring the logic of &quot;Duh, it&#039;s A9 you moron&quot; for just a moment) so the filing with Amazon could be understandable (but none the less stupid)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can see what I mean here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://whois.domaintools.com/72.21.206.133&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://whois.domaintools.com/72.21.206.133&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So where is the line drawn? Amazon hosts A9 and has them on their servers on their IP addresses, how is that different from your imaginary host with Hostgator? From a technical standpoint, there isn&#039;t much difference and that&#039;s what worries me. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What may make the difference and this is an area of law I know nothing about is the relationship between the companies. I can&#039;t offer anything there and would love your feedback.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One question I do have and I could probably find out from reading through the previous filings is why on earth this is a 512(c) complaint? A9, best I understand, is an information location tool, which would make it 512(d). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That had me very confused as I read through this but I wasn&#039;t able to find the previous filings. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your comment!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#39;re talking about two different things. This deals with ISPs who rely upon other ISPs servers, not so much site operators. Allow me to explain:</p><p>If you visit this page you can become a reseller for Hostgator (for a very small monthly fee): <a
href="http://www.hostgator.com/resellers.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.hostgator.com/resellers.shtml</a></p><p>This allows you to set up your own ISP with your own site, your own customers and your own corporation if you want. You&#39;re free to sell hosting to anyone who is willing to buy it from you.</p><p>However, let&#39;s say that you run such a hosting company and a spammer set up an account there. Every hosting check I do will show Hostgator as the host, not you. Therefore, I&#39;d file my notices with Hostgator unaware of your existence as a separate company and a reseller.</p><p>The question is whether or not Hostgator is obligated to respond to the DMCA notice. If we follow the logic of this case, it isn&#39;t clear. The reason is A9 is indeed hosted by <a
href="http://Amazon.com" rel="nofollow">Amazon.com</a>, If we go by networking tools alone, the host shows up as Amazon (we&#39;re ignoring the logic of &#8220;Duh, it&#39;s A9 you moron&#8221; for just a moment) so the filing with Amazon could be understandable (but none the less stupid)</p><p>You can see what I mean here:</p><p><a
href="http://whois.domaintools.com/72.21.206.133" rel="nofollow">http://whois.domaintools.com/72.21.206.133</a></p><p>So where is the line drawn? Amazon hosts A9 and has them on their servers on their IP addresses, how is that different from your imaginary host with Hostgator? From a technical standpoint, there isn&#39;t much difference and that&#39;s what worries me.</p><p>What may make the difference and this is an area of law I know nothing about is the relationship between the companies. I can&#39;t offer anything there and would love your feedback.</p><p>One question I do have and I could probably find out from reading through the previous filings is why on earth this is a 512(c) complaint? A9, best I understand, is an information location tool, which would make it 512(d).</p><p>That had me very confused as I read through this but I wasn&#39;t able to find the previous filings.</p><p>Thank you for your comment!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125586</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-125586</guid> <description>Thank you very much and you are 100% correct. Error has been fixed. This is the limitation of automated spell checking right here...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much and you are 100% correct. Error has been fixed. This is the limitation of automated spell checking right here&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric Goldman</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125585</link> <dc:creator>Eric Goldman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3563#comment-125585</guid> <description>I think I may be missing something.  If the takedown notice goes to a host and not the website operator, the host still must respond or lose its own 512 safe harbor.  So even if you can&#039;t find the website operator, you should be able to force the host to do the takedown for you.  Eric.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I may be missing something.  If the takedown notice goes to a host and not the website operator, the host still must respond or lose its own 512 safe harbor.  So even if you can&#39;t find the website operator, you should be able to force the host to do the takedown for you.  Eric.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Photography Links &#8211; May 22, 2009 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/21/a-warning-for-dmca-filers/comment-page-1/#comment-125582</link> <dc:creator>Photography Links &#8211; May 22, 2009 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 09:14:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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