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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Maureen Dowd Plagiarism Scandal</title> <atom:link href="http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/</link> <description>Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:12:29 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: amandamcnall</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-128696</link> <dc:creator>amandamcnall</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-128696</guid> <description>[...] Maureen Dowd: Respected, though controversial, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd was under fire when comparisons were drawn between a May 2009 column she wrote and a column written by TalkingPointsMemo.com editor Josh Marshall the week before. As PlagiarismToday.com reports, &#8220;the two paragraphs, both over 40 words, were identical save for one minor alteration.&#8221; The Times backed Dowd, claiming it was all an accident. Dowd apologized online and said that a friend, who must have read Marshall&#8217;s column, helped her with her own column that week. Dowd was harshly criticized for the instance, however, since twenty-two years earlier, she had so fiercely pursued then-Presidential candidate Joe Biden for allegedly committing plagiarism. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maureen Dowd: Respected, though controversial, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd was under fire when comparisons were drawn between a May 2009 column she wrote and a column written by TalkingPointsMemo.com editor Josh Marshall the week before. As PlagiarismToday.com reports, &#8220;the two paragraphs, both over 40 words, were identical save for one minor alteration.&#8221; The Times backed Dowd, claiming it was all an accident. Dowd apologized online and said that a friend, who must have read Marshall&rsquo;s column, helped her with her own column that week. Dowd was harshly criticized for the instance, however, since twenty-two years earlier, she had so fiercely pursued then-Presidential candidate Joe Biden for allegedly committing plagiarism. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Chris Anderson Plagiarism Controversy &#124; PlagiarismToday</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125821</link> <dc:creator>The Chris Anderson Plagiarism Controversy &#124; PlagiarismToday</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:20:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125821</guid> <description>[...] is important to remember that this is not like the Maureen Dowd case where we are talking about one quote with omitted attribution, but about at least a dozen and, by [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is important to remember that this is not like the Maureen Dowd case where we are talking about one quote with omitted attribution, but about at least a dozen and, by [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: louis haas</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-129071</link> <dc:creator>louis haas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-129071</guid> <description>Dear Mr. Bailey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism--it is all intentional and deliberate--and sloppiness is no excuse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Bailey,</p><p>Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism&#8211;it is all intentional and deliberate&#8211;and sloppiness is no excuse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ron hansing</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-129072</link> <dc:creator>ron hansing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-129072</guid> <description>&quot;Every Artist Is a Cannibal Every Poet Is a Thief&quot; Bono... Did Bono really originate this phrase or did he steal it from some bloke in an Irish Bar? And if so is it plagerism. I think not, the same with Dowd&#039;s column.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is common in music, often, we see strings of notes used by other composers, are they thiefs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The same with movies. Did Spielberg in Private Ryan, steal fthe opening scene rom Stones Platoon? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did Dowd quote her 43 words from her friend, and if so should she have given her credit? It is entirely possible that her friend was her source. No. because, she context is changed because it was incorporated into her entire column with her bent on the issue. Just as her friend gave her verbatim line from the original writer. ( This is not implausable, when one hears a profound statement.) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, Maureen is the princess of journalism and Dorthy Rabinowitz&#039;s the queen. No one could have written that column, except for Maureen. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about actors... Marilyn Monroe, acting style has been plagerized by millions, and she I&#039;m sure borrowed from many great actors in the past. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are all thieves. I stole from all the great writers. I once heard a story about one writer asking another writer if  he is angry that another writer &quot;stole&quot; his phrase. His answer... I am flattered. And that is my answer. For some reason, writers have this complex that every thing they say, is theirs... But I am sure, somewhere in their past, they likewise &quot;stole it&quot; form someone else. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Writers are too sensitive. All other artists tend to be flattered that they are copied. But writers for some reason, seem to have a massive inferiority complex. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone once said that there are a 100 plots in literature, and they are all in the BIBLE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ron hansing</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every Artist Is a Cannibal Every Poet Is a Thief&#8221; Bono&#8230; Did Bono really originate this phrase or did he steal it from some bloke in an Irish Bar? And if so is it plagerism. I think not, the same with Dowd&#39;s column.</p><p>This is common in music, often, we see strings of notes used by other composers, are they thiefs?</p><p>The same with movies. Did Spielberg in Private Ryan, steal fthe opening scene rom Stones Platoon?</p><p>Did Dowd quote her 43 words from her friend, and if so should she have given her credit? It is entirely possible that her friend was her source. No. because, she context is changed because it was incorporated into her entire column with her bent on the issue. Just as her friend gave her verbatim line from the original writer. ( This is not implausable, when one hears a profound statement.)</p><p>Besides, Maureen is the princess of journalism and Dorthy Rabinowitz&#39;s the queen. No one could have written that column, except for Maureen.</p><p>What about actors&#8230; Marilyn Monroe, acting style has been plagerized by millions, and she I&#39;m sure borrowed from many great actors in the past.</p><p>We are all thieves. I stole from all the great writers. I once heard a story about one writer asking another writer if  he is angry that another writer &#8220;stole&#8221; his phrase. His answer&#8230; I am flattered. And that is my answer. For some reason, writers have this complex that every thing they say, is theirs&#8230; But I am sure, somewhere in their past, they likewise &#8220;stole it&#8221; form someone else.</p><p>Writers are too sensitive. All other artists tend to be flattered that they are copied. But writers for some reason, seem to have a massive inferiority complex.</p><p>Someone once said that there are a 100 plots in literature, and they are all in the BIBLE.</p><p>ron hansing</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: louis haas</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-127944</link> <dc:creator>louis haas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-127944</guid> <description>Dear Mr. Bailey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism--it is all intentional and deliberate--and sloppiness is no excuse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Bailey,</p><p>Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism&#8211;it is all intentional and deliberate&#8211;and sloppiness is no excuse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: louis haas</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125692</link> <dc:creator>louis haas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125692</guid> <description>Dear Mr. Bailey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism--it is all intentional and deliberate--and sloppiness is no excuse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Bailey,</p><p>Sadly you are whitewashing here, and like you I do plagiarism analysis for a living and have been doing it since 1981 (I am a university professor).  What Dowd has done here is a classic and egregious example of plagiarism, that would have seen her flunking the class, and hopefully learning the lesson.   Also, there is no such animal as accidental plagiarism&#8211;it is all intentional and deliberate&#8211;and sloppiness is no excuse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ron hansing</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125690</link> <dc:creator>ron hansing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:22:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125690</guid> <description>&quot;Every Artist Is a Cannibal Every Poet Is a Thief&quot; Bono... Did Bono really originate this phrase or did he steal it from some bloke in an Irish Bar? And if so is it plagerism. I think not, the same with Dowd&#039;s column.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is common in music, often, we see strings of notes used by other composers, are they thiefs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The same with movies. Did Spielberg in Private Ryan, steal fthe opening scene rom Stones Platoon? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did Dowd quote her 43 words from her friend, and if so should she have given her credit? It is entirely possible that her friend was her source. No. because, she context is changed because it was incorporated into her entire column with her bent on the issue. Just as her friend gave her verbatim line from the original writer. ( This is not implausable, when one hears a profound statement.) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Besides, Maureen is the princess of journalism and Dorthy Rabinowitz&#039;s the queen. No one could have written that column, except for Maureen. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about actors... Marilyn Monroe, acting style has been plagerized by millions, and she I&#039;m sure borrowed from many great actors in the past. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are all thieves. I stole from all the great writers. I once heard a story about one writer asking another writer if  he is angry that another writer &quot;stole&quot; his phrase. His answer... I am flattered. And that is my answer. For some reason, writers have this complex that every thing they say, is theirs... But I am sure, somewhere in their past, they likewise &quot;stole it&quot; form someone else. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Writers are too sensitive. All other artists tend to be flattered that they are copied. But writers for some reason, seem to have a massive inferiority complex. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone once said that there are a 100 plots in literature, and they are all in the BIBLE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ron hansing</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every Artist Is a Cannibal Every Poet Is a Thief&#8221; Bono&#8230; Did Bono really originate this phrase or did he steal it from some bloke in an Irish Bar? And if so is it plagerism. I think not, the same with Dowd&#39;s column.</p><p>This is common in music, often, we see strings of notes used by other composers, are they thiefs?</p><p>The same with movies. Did Spielberg in Private Ryan, steal fthe opening scene rom Stones Platoon?</p><p>Did Dowd quote her 43 words from her friend, and if so should she have given her credit? It is entirely possible that her friend was her source. No. because, she context is changed because it was incorporated into her entire column with her bent on the issue. Just as her friend gave her verbatim line from the original writer. ( This is not implausable, when one hears a profound statement.)</p><p>Besides, Maureen is the princess of journalism and Dorthy Rabinowitz&#39;s the queen. No one could have written that column, except for Maureen.</p><p>What about actors&#8230; Marilyn Monroe, acting style has been plagerized by millions, and she I&#39;m sure borrowed from many great actors in the past.</p><p>We are all thieves. I stole from all the great writers. I once heard a story about one writer asking another writer if  he is angry that another writer &#8220;stole&#8221; his phrase. His answer&#8230; I am flattered. And that is my answer. For some reason, writers have this complex that every thing they say, is theirs&#8230; But I am sure, somewhere in their past, they likewise &#8220;stole it&#8221; form someone else.</p><p>Writers are too sensitive. All other artists tend to be flattered that they are copied. But writers for some reason, seem to have a massive inferiority complex.</p><p>Someone once said that there are a 100 plots in literature, and they are all in the BIBLE.</p><p>ron hansing</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: H.L. Mencken: Quotes from a Contrarian&#8217;s Contrarian</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125593</link> <dc:creator>H.L. Mencken: Quotes from a Contrarian&#8217;s Contrarian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 05:32:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125593</guid> <description>[...] op-ed and aneviscerating prose style feebly imitated today by the likes of admitted plagiarizer Maureen Dowd, and not so feebly by British born contrarian Christopher [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] op-ed and aneviscerating prose style feebly imitated today by the likes of admitted plagiarizer Maureen Dowd, and not so feebly by British born contrarian Christopher [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125589</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125589</guid> <description>An interesting possibility and one I had not weighed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to be honest though, I think of my self as email savvy as just about anyone but I&#039;ve never said I talked to people over email. Then again, maybe I just don&#039;t realize it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, there are other technologies including IM that it could be as well. Still, until we hear from Dowd exactly what she says happened, we&#039;re not going to really know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the friend, if what Dowd says is right, then you are correct, poor form and very un-media savvy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting possibility and one I had not weighed.</p><p>I have to be honest though, I think of my self as email savvy as just about anyone but I&#39;ve never said I talked to people over email. Then again, maybe I just don&#39;t realize it.</p><p>Of course, there are other technologies including IM that it could be as well. Still, until we hear from Dowd exactly what she says happened, we&#39;re not going to really know.</p><p>As for the friend, if what Dowd says is right, then you are correct, poor form and very un-media savvy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/05/18/the-maureen-dowd-plagiarism-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-125588</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:50:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=3509#comment-125588</guid> <description>Hm, hard to say on this one. Admittedly, I&#039;m not familiar with Shafer&#039;s views on plagiarism elsewhere. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think calling the explanation plausible doesn&#039;t make much sense nor does saying that she hasn&#039;t used it as an excuse. With one incident of relatively minor plagiarism, it could be many different things but I don&#039;t think it was what Dowd claimed it was and anyone who thinks it is has some form of blinders on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, even if her response had been perfect, I do think this would have warranted a deeper investigation into her writing just to make sure this was the only incident. I don&#039;t think that has happened yet, not officially at least.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t really have anything for or against Dowd, I&#039;m just not ready to convict or drop prosecution either. There&#039;s more to this and anyone who can&#039;t see that probably isn&#039;t paying attention or is showing some bias.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, hard to say on this one. Admittedly, I&#39;m not familiar with Shafer&#39;s views on plagiarism elsewhere.</p><p>I think calling the explanation plausible doesn&#39;t make much sense nor does saying that she hasn&#39;t used it as an excuse. With one incident of relatively minor plagiarism, it could be many different things but I don&#39;t think it was what Dowd claimed it was and anyone who thinks it is has some form of blinders on.</p><p>However, even if her response had been perfect, I do think this would have warranted a deeper investigation into her writing just to make sure this was the only incident. I don&#39;t think that has happened yet, not officially at least.</p><p>I don&#39;t really have anything for or against Dowd, I&#39;m just not ready to convict or drop prosecution either. There&#39;s more to this and anyone who can&#39;t see that probably isn&#39;t paying attention or is showing some bias.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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