Comments on: Digg Responds, Says DiggBar Not Evil

By: 1001noisycamera (1001noisycame

1001noisycamera (1001noisycame — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:59:00 +0000

More on the DiggBar controversy: http://tinyurl.com/d5sbdj

By: 1001noisycamera (100

1001noisycamera (100 — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:59:13 +0000

More on the DiggBar controversy: http://tinyurl.com/d5sbdj

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:42:32 +0000

You can also click the red "X" to close most popups but I'll wager that you still surf the Web with some form of popup blocking.Just because you can close a Web annoyance doesn't make it any less annoying…

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:37:14 +0000

That's a great URL We'll have to keep on top of this and keep adding frames to it as we build out. It'll be interesting to see how long before the site is not visible "above the fold" as it is on the Web.Interesting comment and name in frame spamming, something for me to definitely think about…

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:27:41 +0000

I agree that the canonical tag won't help much, mainly because it is meant to be a tag to deal with duplicate content on the same domain, not cross domains. For example, you put it on tag pages to keep it from duplicating your individual posts. However, since the addition of the noindex tag, ther SHOULD be no Digg URLs in Google, though it is not clear if any of the link juice will pass.I agree with your frustrations on the framing issue. I am not using a frame buster and probably want because there are legitimate uses for framing, but it is easy to see why many are upset about the way Digg is handling this issue.Finally, I also agree that this system should be opt in. If I am fine with the framing, I could allow it. But the problem there is that there is no real way to indicate this. Robots.txt doesn't do anything other than switch indexing on or off and there is no META standard. Sadly, I don't think there is a practical way to opt in or out for that matter.

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:22:04 +0000

There's still a lot of unanswered issues here. Though there has been some things done to satisfy content creators, there are still many long term problems that need to be addressed before I'll be satisfied. It seems that there are still no shortage of visitors that dislike the new DiggBar, a plea to not immitate even reached number one on Reddit.

By: Burt

Burt — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:53:17 +0000

This truly is terrible. If only there were a handy "X" button you could click to break out of said frames…

By: Kevin Eklund

Kevin Eklund — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:12:42 +0000

I hope someone sues them. It's essentially spamming in the sense that when you click on a shortened Digg link or a re-shortened Digg link it shows the frame without the users consent to do so (see link for further explanation in my comment below)

By: Kevin Eklund

Kevin Eklund — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:08:35 +0000

Excellent job of pointing out that the problem is not at all solved. Again, I think perhaps one of the most important issues is that, like you showed (http://unhub.com/digghijack), these frames create a total mess of the web. I was able to even take it a step further and re-shorten a few more of the shortened url to create this and hopefully drive home the point: http://tomuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/mu.....What most people fail to realize is that, because the user is not requesting or giving permission to Digg and the other offenders to display these frames is that it is essentially spamming them. I like to call it "FRAME SPAMMING": http://tomuse.com/framing-spam-diggbar-facebook.....

By: Skitzzo

Skitzzo — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:04:30 +0000

While these are certainly steps in the right direction, there are still some MAJOR unresolved issues here.In terms of SEO, the benefit from inbound links is not going to pass through a canonical tag. I'm sorry, it just won't. So, any time anyone links to the Diggbar URL instead of YOUR URL, you're getting screwed by the Diggbar.Also, and probably more importantly, Digg has no right to frame my pages. They're profiting from it through more page views, increased user activity etc, and as a content producer, the only way I can stop it, is to put frame busting code on my page which can cause problems for all sorts of other legitimate plugins or tools.Digg offers badges that people can put on their site if they want people to be able to digg from the story, so why not make this framing something similar? I realize it wouldn't benefit Digg nearly as much, but they also wouldn't be stealing my content.