Comments on: Famous Plagiarists: Could it Happen Today?

By: Username

Username — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:15:03 +0000

it happens today readily only the businesses or writers which do plagiarize have created methods to allow them to do so. Take Miss Oprah WInfrey as an example-go to her website http://www.oprah.com and act is you going to send a “story” or “idea” a “suggestions” even for her shows writers or staff to read as an incentive or directive for them to craft show concepts (which they get paid for) Oprah has a detailed disclaimer under her web submit form which states her business in so many words less copy, alter and use anything sent to them. They retain the privelege to not only alter information but create an excuse, remove liability, excuse themselves from having to pay for submissions and can alter material. This is the same woman whom preaches ethics and works closely in publishing.

By: plagiarismtoday

plagiarismtoday — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:52:48 +0000

First off, it was inappropriate to start a new thread in the comments. If you are unable to follow a standard protocol for conversation and keep the discussion civil, I will delete your thread.

However, please remember that Elliot famously quipped, “=”Good writers borrow, great writers steal”. (Though variations of the quote circulate).

Here are some other sources that talk about Eliot’s alleged plagiarism in varying degrees of detail:

The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/nov/23/comment.stephenmoss

Richard Posner, who wrote “The Little Book on Plagiarism” discussed it here: http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2002/04/posner.htm

And, perhaps most convincingly for me, Dr. John Lesko, one of the world’s foremost authorities on plagiarism, wrote up TS Eliot in his site Famous Plagiarists. Unfortunately, the site is down and archive.org seems to be having trouble this second but the URL is here: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.famousplagiarists.com/literature.htm

Even the article you linked to said, “Perhaps the finest example of creative plagiarism is TS Eliot’s long poem The Waste Land.” While I agree that the intention of Eliot was one of creativity and not plagiarism, the simple fact is that, most likely, his actions would not be acceptable today.

I don’t consider TS Eliot to be an evil stinking plagiarist, but to day that he didn’t plagiarize is simply disingenuous.

By: Edward

Edward — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:36:04 +0000

For anyone interested in a grown-up intelligent discussion on post-modernist writing, plagiarism, and collage, go to this blog.

http://readingthemaps.blogspot.com/2009/11/plagiarism-what-ihimaera-could-learn.html

I can’t recall a single respected source who would claim that TS Eliot plagiarized.

By: plagiarismtoday

plagiarismtoday — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:24:00 +0000

Please, take a moment to actually read the article, you’ll see that this is a response to an article on Cracked.com. The source link is in this article and that article, in turn, has links to the proof.

If you have any further questions, please let me know.

By: Edward

Edward — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:05:51 +0000

Typical type of article by a blogger. A lot of accusations which you just throw out as “true” but don’t bother to actually build a factual case for. I am sure you will say that it is up to the reader to “look it up” but that is a lazy, trivial approach to scholarship. If you do not have the time to write a thesis backed up with clear examples as to exactly why “The Wasteland” is a plagiarized poem, then don’t write anything at all…oh yeah, nothing at all is what this article amounts to. besides, there isn;t half as much plagiearism as “webmaster” claim. More often than not, there contributions are to trite to deserve protection.

By: Plagiarism = Purloining: Discernment of the Original | centerforics.org

Plagiarism = Purloining: Discernment of the Original | centerforics.org — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:00:11 +0000

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By: Catching Dead Plagiarists: Is it Worth It? | Plagiarism Today

Catching Dead Plagiarists: Is it Worth It? | Plagiarism Today — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:05:46 +0000

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By: Username

Username — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:02:13 +0000

Beware of Oprah Winfrey, she is a shifty individual and her website disclaimer @ http://www.oprah.com under the submit/contact form for years stated she and her staff can alter any words submitted, change stories and times without being “obliged” to pay the general public or submitter. Her other notes regarding intellectual property apply less as the only method to send information is through that web portal. Notice her list of celebrity clients constantly need new and exciting idea’s to keep their profit making careers going. The cover of charity and “doing good” along with health advise has benefitted her and them into billionaires. No reputable publisher takes credit or removes liability. Its no longer plagiarism when people gain revenue from your work, plans or idea’s, its then a profit making scheme.

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:58:59 +0000

Strangely, a similar thought ran across my mind as well, but it wasn't the Weather Channel, I was thinking of traditional cable news. Sad day and age isn't it?

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:57:19 +0000

It is surprising but if you visit the Famous Plagiarists site you'll see that a lot of great writers were implicated.