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	<title>Comments on: The AP/Shepherd Fairey Dispute</title>
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		<title>By: The Lawyer: Venkat on Copyright and More 1/2 :: Rasmus Rasmussen dot com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lawyer: Venkat on Copyright and More 1/2 :: Rasmus Rasmussen dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] into trouble.” This is just plain wrong, as illustrated by the recent dispute involving the AP/Fairey. Fair use is a very contextual determination, and if the stakes are high enough, will almost always [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] into trouble.” This is just plain wrong, as illustrated by the recent dispute involving the AP/Fairey. Fair use is a very contextual determination, and if the stakes are high enough, will almost always [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/02/06/the-apshepherd-fairey-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-124739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide a source for that? I&#039;d like to reference it if it can be verified. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide a source for that? I&#039;d like to reference it if it can be verified.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Roussimoff</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/02/06/the-apshepherd-fairey-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-124736</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris Roussimoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairy has admitted to selling 4000 posters at $45 each, giving him a revenue of $180,000. His repeated claim of having made no money is based on his assertion that he put the money back into printing posters for free to be used for political purposes. That&#039;s not the same as earning no revenue. That&#039;s earning $180,000 and then spending it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairy has admitted to selling 4000 posters at $45 each, giving him a revenue of $180,000. His repeated claim of having made no money is based on his assertion that he put the money back into printing posters for free to be used for political purposes. That&#039;s not the same as earning no revenue. That&#039;s earning $180,000 and then spending it.</p>
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		<title>By: MattJhsn (Matt Johns</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattJhsn (Matt Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP sues the creator of the &quot;HOPE&quot; poster for infringement.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/1CpyZk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/1CpyZk&lt;/a&gt; ,  a few more copies  &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/18ihK7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/18ihK7&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP sues the creator of the &quot;HOPE&quot; poster for infringement.   <a href="http://bit.ly/1CpyZk" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1CpyZk</a> ,  a few more copies  <a href="http://bit.ly/18ihK7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/18ihK7</a></p>
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		<title>By: February 12 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>February 12 roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some thoughts on much-publicized tussle between Associated Press and Shepard Fairey over Obamacon photo [Plagiarism Today] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some thoughts on much-publicized tussle between Associated Press and Shepard Fairey over Obamacon photo [Plagiarism Today] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MattJhsn (Matt Johns</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2009/02/06/the-apshepherd-fairey-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-124692</link>
		<dc:creator>MattJhsn (Matt Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP sues the creator of the &quot;HOPE&quot; poster for infringement.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/1CpyZk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/1CpyZk&lt;/a&gt; ,  a few more copies  &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/18ihK7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/18ihK7&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP sues the creator of the &quot;HOPE&quot; poster for infringement.   <a href="http://bit.ly/1CpyZk" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1CpyZk</a> ,  a few more copies  <a href="http://bit.ly/18ihK7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/18ihK7</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though the image is transformative there still has to be obvious connection between the the old image and the new image in the mind of the viewer. The fact that neither the AP nor the photographer made the connection shows just how poor Fairey&#039;s fair use claim is. Transformative in copyright law does not mean that the image is pushed beyond recognition when compared to the original image. This has been shown in court more than the opposite. So I think Fairey will have a hard fair use case to make.Fairey may have donated the money to the campaign, but he still made profit from the image in order to obtain that donation money.  Last I checked the ObeyGiant site is not a non-profit nor Fairey&#039;s studio. Fairey is free to do what he wants with his money after earning it, but the fact is he made profit. The fact that he made it clear that money would go toward the campaign does not matter because he is not running a non-profit.  The Reuters photograph was thought to be the photograph Fairey used before the Mannie Garcia info was made public. A gallery representing Fairey admitted to Garcia and the press that the origin of the poster is Garcia&#039;s photograph. Shepard Fairey has also finally said that it was indeed Garcia&#039;s photograph. I&#039;m sure the AP knows what they own or not. Their legal team is expansive.The AP supports copyright protection so my guess is that they are doing this to make a stand. You have to remember that copyright is designed to protect creators of original works. It is not a catch all protection for everyone else to use those works. Fair use is limited for a reason.Garcia is known for being a creative photographer so that will work for the AP. Fairey should have used an image that was more widely known or he should have contacted the photographer and AP in the first place. Fairey is a professional illustrator working for major companies. He should know the rules when it comes to using images by others in his work. Working against him is the fact that he settled with the estate of Rene Mederos in 2007 for copyright infringement. That could come up. His ethics are also in question because he sent a cease and desist letter to an artist named Baxter Orr after or made a parody of Obey Giant which was a perfect example of fair use under both copyright and trademark law. Obey Giant is known the world over so it is a good choice to use for fair use. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the image is transformative there still has to be obvious connection between the the old image and the new image in the mind of the viewer. The fact that neither the AP nor the photographer made the connection shows just how poor Fairey&#039;s fair use claim is. Transformative in copyright law does not mean that the image is pushed beyond recognition when compared to the original image. This has been shown in court more than the opposite. So I think Fairey will have a hard fair use case to make.Fairey may have donated the money to the campaign, but he still made profit from the image in order to obtain that donation money.  Last I checked the ObeyGiant site is not a non-profit nor Fairey&#039;s studio. Fairey is free to do what he wants with his money after earning it, but the fact is he made profit. The fact that he made it clear that money would go toward the campaign does not matter because he is not running a non-profit.  The Reuters photograph was thought to be the photograph Fairey used before the Mannie Garcia info was made public. A gallery representing Fairey admitted to Garcia and the press that the origin of the poster is Garcia&#039;s photograph. Shepard Fairey has also finally said that it was indeed Garcia&#039;s photograph. I&#039;m sure the AP knows what they own or not. Their legal team is expansive.The AP supports copyright protection so my guess is that they are doing this to make a stand. You have to remember that copyright is designed to protect creators of original works. It is not a catch all protection for everyone else to use those works. Fair use is limited for a reason.Garcia is known for being a creative photographer so that will work for the AP. Fairey should have used an image that was more widely known or he should have contacted the photographer and AP in the first place. Fairey is a professional illustrator working for major companies. He should know the rules when it comes to using images by others in his work. Working against him is the fact that he settled with the estate of Rene Mederos in 2007 for copyright infringement. That could come up. His ethics are also in question because he sent a cease and desist letter to an artist named Baxter Orr after or made a parody of Obey Giant which was a perfect example of fair use under both copyright and trademark law. Obey Giant is known the world over so it is a good choice to use for fair use.</p>
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		<title>By: David Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jon. After thinking about this case a little more, I have come to a different conclusion. Given the resent addition of another claimant to the original Obama picture, Reuters, I think that the &quot;Hope&quot; poster may be considered substantially similar to many pictures of our president. The iconic poster is an abstraction that will be considered substantially similar to any picture of Obama where he is staring up and to the left. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fairey&#039;s main problem is that he admits to copying a picture from the internet. This proves that, at the very least, he had access to the picture. Couple this with the overt similarities between the &quot;Hope&quot; poster and the AP and Reuters pictures, and you have satisfied the two prongs of the infringement test. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point in the game, and given the aforementioned admissions, I would draw the following analogy in defense: I would liken the &quot;Hope&quot; poster to a painting of any famous landscape. Upon inspection, any person with a picture of that same landscape would have a colorable claim against the painter. To make the analogy more similar to the case at bar, I would add that the painter has had access to at least two photographs of the same landscape.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, yeah, access to the prior pictures can be proven, and substantial similarity can be proven. But, should we enforce the Lockean &quot;sweat of the brow&quot; doctrine against Fairey? Should he be civilly liable for not going and taking his own Obama picture as a basis for his poster? Or should we be able to expand upon thinly protected copyrights that, nowadays, differ by perhaps a few dozen pixels from eachother? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, on a side note, what do you think about the new Pepsi campaign? &lt;a href=&quot;http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2008/12/31/drink-obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2008/12/31/drin...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon. After thinking about this case a little more, I have come to a different conclusion. Given the resent addition of another claimant to the original Obama picture, Reuters, I think that the &#8220;Hope&#8221; poster may be considered substantially similar to many pictures of our president. The iconic poster is an abstraction that will be considered substantially similar to any picture of Obama where he is staring up and to the left. </p>
<p>Fairey&#39;s main problem is that he admits to copying a picture from the internet. This proves that, at the very least, he had access to the picture. Couple this with the overt similarities between the &#8220;Hope&#8221; poster and the AP and Reuters pictures, and you have satisfied the two prongs of the infringement test. </p>
<p>At this point in the game, and given the aforementioned admissions, I would draw the following analogy in defense: I would liken the &#8220;Hope&#8221; poster to a painting of any famous landscape. Upon inspection, any person with a picture of that same landscape would have a colorable claim against the painter. To make the analogy more similar to the case at bar, I would add that the painter has had access to at least two photographs of the same landscape.</p>
<p>So, yeah, access to the prior pictures can be proven, and substantial similarity can be proven. But, should we enforce the Lockean &#8220;sweat of the brow&#8221; doctrine against Fairey? Should he be civilly liable for not going and taking his own Obama picture as a basis for his poster? Or should we be able to expand upon thinly protected copyrights that, nowadays, differ by perhaps a few dozen pixels from eachother? </p>
<p>Also, on a side note, what do you think about the new Pepsi campaign? <a href="http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2008/12/31/drink-obama" rel="nofollow">http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2008/12/31/drin&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: methode (methode)</title>
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		<dc:creator>methode (methode)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article by &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://twitter.com/plagiarismtoday&quot;&gt;@plagiarismtoday&lt;/a&gt; on the  Associated Press/Shepard copyright infringement case: http://tinyurl.com/agnbss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/plagiarismtoday">@plagiarismtoday</a> on the  Associated Press/Shepard copyright infringement case: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/agnbss" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/agnbss</a></p>
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		<title>By: methode (methode)</title>
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		<dc:creator>methode (methode)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article by &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/plagiarismtoday&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@plagiarismtoday&lt;/a&gt; on the  Associated Press/Shepard copyright infringement case: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/agnbss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/agnbss&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article by <a href="http://twitter.com/plagiarismtoday" rel="nofollow">@plagiarismtoday</a> on the  Associated Press/Shepard copyright infringement case: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/agnbss" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/agnbss</a></p>
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