Comments on: The Myspace Problem http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/ Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:10:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: tonydoran http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-129040 tonydoran Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:16:25 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-129040 I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement - but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated. I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement – but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated.

]]> By: tonydoran http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-128040 tonydoran Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:16:25 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-128040 I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement - but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated. I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement – but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated.

]]> By: tonydoran http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-127014 tonydoran Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:16:25 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-127014 I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement - but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated. I am currently in the process of trying to get some of work which has been plagiarised from something I have written taken down from Myspace, Facebook, Bebo et al. The work is in the form of a piece of music that has had it's main theme lifted and used by another composer. The fact that no money has been made is irrelevant to me, as the composer and copyright holder of the original piece. The main thing for me is that work that is MINE is being passed off as someone else's creation. Perhaps, Carlos, you do not think that is an issue as not even one cent has been made through the infringement – but to me it is theft. Indeed it is a very serious theft to me, I would have cared less if my car had been stolen. Theft is theft, in whatever form. It should not be allowed, or tolerated.

]]> By: Carlos Garcia http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-124980 Carlos Garcia Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:48:16 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-124980 I seriously think copyright laws need to be re-written. Who is it hurting when someone posts someone else's music video, let's say, on their own page? The person who runs the page isn't making one cent because MySpace is free to access. If anything, they are promoting the music video for whatever group...A person seeing that video may actually look into buying that song or video legally as a result. Yes these copyright laws are old school and need a serious re-write. Also, let's not forget all the non-American countries that can freely distribute copyrighted material with no repurcusions. I seriously think copyright laws need to be re-written. Who is it hurting when someone posts someone else's music video, let's say, on their own page? The person who runs the page isn't making one cent because MySpace is free to access. If anything, they are promoting the music video for whatever group…A person seeing that video may actually look into buying that song or video legally as a result. Yes these copyright laws are old school and need a serious re-write. Also, let's not forget all the non-American countries that can freely distribute copyrighted material with no repurcusions.

]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-123353 Jonathan Bailey Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:06:02 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-123353 I can't say that I am very shocked by the staff member in the forum thread. I knew that particular feature was a bad idea and I knew that PB was going to explain it in at least a similar way. They fail to see the difference between stopping all, stopping some and enabling the process. The first two are philosophical issues, but the latter is something very different, including legally. Such an aloof attitude toward these issues helps no one. I've seen that attitude first hand and written about it elsewhere on this site.<br><br>Regarding what you said about students being taught to copy and paste, it may be hitting a point now that we are dealing with lazy teachers. I grew up in a world where the library would not let me photocopy a page from the encyclopedia to take home (legally sound but a bit extreme I still feel) but I am stunned at how quickly we reached the point you describe and I am very worried.<br><br>I worry not just about the future of my work and the work of other artists, but of the quality of the next generation's material. How are they going to produce research, artwork and poetry when all they know is copying.<br><br>This is a sad day for me indeed.<br><br>Thank you for your comment though, bad news that it is, I appreciate it greatly. I can't say that I am very shocked by the staff member in the forum thread. I knew that particular feature was a bad idea and I knew that PB was going to explain it in at least a similar way. They fail to see the difference between stopping all, stopping some and enabling the process. The first two are philosophical issues, but the latter is something very different, including legally. Such an aloof attitude toward these issues helps no one. I've seen that attitude first hand and written about it elsewhere on this site.

Regarding what you said about students being taught to copy and paste, it may be hitting a point now that we are dealing with lazy teachers. I grew up in a world where the library would not let me photocopy a page from the encyclopedia to take home (legally sound but a bit extreme I still feel) but I am stunned at how quickly we reached the point you describe and I am very worried.

I worry not just about the future of my work and the work of other artists, but of the quality of the next generation's material. How are they going to produce research, artwork and poetry when all they know is copying.

This is a sad day for me indeed.

Thank you for your comment though, bad news that it is, I appreciate it greatly.

]]> By: Melissa http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/10/03/the-myspace-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-123348 Melissa Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:12:51 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1852#comment-123348 Excellent article, and excellent points. I wanted to link you to this forum thread on Photobucket's support forums that I came across the other day: <a href="http://forums.photobucket.com/showthread.php?t=28328">http://forums.photobucket.com/showthread.php?t=...</a> The attitude evidenced by the staff member here I think is a large part of the problem. They assume that since infringement is going to occur anyway, that there is nothing they should do to stop it. That thread right there made me decide to finally drop my Photobucket account. <br><br>I worked in a public library for the better part of the last ten years and I can say that the copy and paste culture is something that is being *taught* to public school kids (at least in my area, and I suspect in many others). Teachers would regularly direct students to go online and find pictures to make their presentations more interesting. Parents would sit at their children's sides while they worked on papers and show them how to cut and paste from online encyclopedia articles or news articles. <br><br>Harsher takedown/shutdown policies on sites like MySpace and Photobucket would help the problem, but I'm not sure if that's even the real root of it. Excellent article, and excellent points. I wanted to link you to this forum thread on Photobucket's support forums that I came across the other day: http://forums.photobucket.com/showthread.php?t=... The attitude evidenced by the staff member here I think is a large part of the problem. They assume that since infringement is going to occur anyway, that there is nothing they should do to stop it. That thread right there made me decide to finally drop my Photobucket account.

I worked in a public library for the better part of the last ten years and I can say that the copy and paste culture is something that is being *taught* to public school kids (at least in my area, and I suspect in many others). Teachers would regularly direct students to go online and find pictures to make their presentations more interesting. Parents would sit at their children's sides while they worked on papers and show them how to cut and paste from online encyclopedia articles or news articles.

Harsher takedown/shutdown policies on sites like MySpace and Photobucket would help the problem, but I'm not sure if that's even the real root of it.

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