Comments on: The Role of Schools in Fighting Plagiarism http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/ Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:53:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Some Rainy Weekend Link Love : Freelance Writing Jobs http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-128680 Some Rainy Weekend Link Love : Freelance Writing Jobs Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:31:25 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-128680 [...] The Roles of Schools in Fighting Plagiarism at Plagiarism Today [...] [...] The Roles of Schools in Fighting Plagiarism at Plagiarism Today [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-129123 Jonathan Bailey Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:11:46 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-129123 I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.<br><br>This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.<br><br>However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues... I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.

This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.

However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues…

]]> By: Amy http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-129122 Amy Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:20:45 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-129122 There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.<br><br>I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students. <br>great resource: <a href="http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf</a> There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.

I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students.
great resource: http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf

]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-128151 Jonathan Bailey Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:11:46 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-128151 I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.<br><br>This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.<br><br>However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues... I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.

This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.

However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues…

]]> By: Amy http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-128150 Amy Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:20:45 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-128150 There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.<br><br>I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students. <br>great resource: <a href="http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf</a> There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.

I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students.
great resource: http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf

]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-123328 Jonathan Bailey Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:11:46 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-123328 I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.<br><br>This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.<br><br>However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues... I agree with that as well. It's important to remember that many cultures have, historically at least, not frowned up on what we consider plagiarism. It is interesting though as many of these countries have struggled as they've tried to become leaders in science. Though many of their researchers do good work, to many, the work of the entire nation or region is tainted by plagiarism and other academic scandals.

This has lead, in some countries, to a very harsh crackdown on plagiarism and bad research practices, in an attempt to stem that image.

However, a dialog is definitely important here, if we don't talk, we can never resolve these issues…

]]> By: Amy http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-123327 Amy Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:20:45 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-123327 There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.<br><br>I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students. <br>great resource: <a href="http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf">http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf</a> There is also a cultural component. Plagiarism is a Western idea. Some cultures believe that repeating information (without citation) is honorable. Some cultures consider written communication similar to oral tradition of passing along repeated stories. These issues arise with ELL/ESL students.

I think it's important that K-12 and higher ed start having open dialogues on this topic with students.
great resource: http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpmcdonnell.pdf

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]]> By: Jonathan Bailey http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-123320 Jonathan Bailey Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:53:06 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-123320 That is sadly fairly typical these days and very frustrating for me. Though I can understanding dinging a paper a few points for a bad citation, it seems some professors are pretty set in their ways for which citation should be provided, even as times and technologies have changed. that just compounds the issues. Sadly, this type of thing is helping anyone avoid plagiarism, just create more hostility. <br><br>Thank you for sharing your story. That is sadly fairly typical these days and very frustrating for me. Though I can understanding dinging a paper a few points for a bad citation, it seems some professors are pretty set in their ways for which citation should be provided, even as times and technologies have changed. that just compounds the issues. Sadly, this type of thing is helping anyone avoid plagiarism, just create more hostility.

Thank you for sharing your story.

]]> By: Michael http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/09/25/the-role-of-schools-in-fighting-plagiarism/comment-page-1/#comment-123303 Michael Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:38 +0000 http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1800#comment-123303 I had a professor deduct points from one of my papers because I did not cite my source according to MLA standards. But I did, I told her, and cited the MLA Handbook. The MLA Handbook, which I had bought two semesters previous to her class, had been updated online by the MLA. I do not think I had access to this information, either, as a regular student. She did, because she was a professor. She did not back off her decision to ding my paper for citing something I had little way of knowing was an improper citation. I had a professor deduct points from one of my papers because I did not cite my source according to MLA standards. But I did, I told her, and cited the MLA Handbook. The MLA Handbook, which I had bought two semesters previous to her class, had been updated online by the MLA. I do not think I had access to this information, either, as a regular student. She did, because she was a professor. She did not back off her decision to ding my paper for citing something I had little way of knowing was an improper citation.

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