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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why Flickr Licensing Fails</title> <atom:link href="http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/</link> <description>Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:12:29 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: dianaliu (Diana Liu)</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124481</link> <dc:creator>dianaliu (Diana Liu)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-124481</guid> <description>Plagiarism Today on Flickr Licensing: http://tinyurl.com/6yzgdy</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plagiarism Today on Flickr Licensing: <a
href="http://tinyurl.com/6yzgdy" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6yzgdy</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-129015</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-129015</guid> <description>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-128084</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-128084</guid> <description>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-123143</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-123143</guid> <description>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with the signature idea is that many do not wish to clutter their images with one. I agree it is the most effective means of protection but it is a tradeoff between security and beauty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cipals15</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-123137</link> <dc:creator>cipals15</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-123137</guid> <description>I think it is better to create a signature on every photo you have. Placing a signature or name on the image will make use of the image as a marketing tool as well as copyright tool. Anyway, i like the article. Keep writing... &lt;a href=&quot;http://ww.resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;http://ww.resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is better to create a signature on every photo you have. Placing a signature or name on the image will make use of the image as a marketing tool as well as copyright tool. Anyway, i like the article. Keep writing&#8230; <a
href="http://ww.resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com">http://ww.resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cipals15</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-123136</link> <dc:creator>cipals15</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:15:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-123136</guid> <description>Yeah. Licensing online is so hard but some people use it as marketing tool. Place a signature on the original image and voila! You will be known if more and more people download it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Licensing online is so hard but some people use it as marketing tool. Place a signature on the original image and voila! You will be known if more and more people download it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Links - July 18 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-120589</link> <dc:creator>Links - July 18 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:10:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-120589</guid> <description>[...] a followup to last week&#8217;s links about Flickr and copyright, Plagiarism Today has a post on Why Flickr Licensing Fails. Scott Bourne at TWIP wrote about Flickr, Myxer, Copyright Infringement and Lack of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a followup to last week&#8217;s links about Flickr and copyright, Plagiarism Today has a post on Why Flickr Licensing Fails. Scott Bourne at TWIP wrote about Flickr, Myxer, Copyright Infringement and Lack of [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-121288</link> <dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:37:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-121288</guid> <description>Though I agree with you that many of the people who select ARR on their Flickr images are comfortable with use of the images through the API, I submit that it may be another flaw with the licensing system as many, if not most, of those people might be better served by a CC license. I can&#039;t speak for those who I have not met, but I suspect that they use ARR in many cases because it is the default, not because they have thoroughly thought out their licensing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the correction on the use of private images. I can see where I was mistaken and will correct this article shortly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I admit to being a bit simple with the print option, but I was thinking more of people like my mother, who is considering posting some of her paintings and images of her crafts on the Web. The option may be clear to Flickr users but to outsiders and newcomers who aren&#039;t familiar with the system, the term &quot;print&quot; has a different meaning. It might be nitpicky, but I felt it worth mentioning. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hadn&#039;t thought about the use of the term &quot;No License&quot; when selecting the license for your image, you are right that it is VERY confusing and I can understand why you get those comments. I agree that &quot;No CC License&quot; or just simply saying &quot;All Rights Reserved&quot; would be better. &quot;No License&quot; is about the WORST thing one can say there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end, what&#039;s important to me is not that my solution is the best, but that these issues get addressed and quick. I&#039;ll admit that my system has flaws, especially since it came from someone familiar with licensing, but I hope that it was a step in the right direction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope that others, such as yourself, can take it even farther, that&#039;s why I put it out there...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I agree with you that many of the people who select ARR on their Flickr images are comfortable with use of the images through the API, I submit that it may be another flaw with the licensing system as many, if not most, of those people might be better served by a CC license. I can&#8217;t speak for those who I have not met, but I suspect that they use ARR in many cases because it is the default, not because they have thoroughly thought out their licensing.</p><p>Thanks for the correction on the use of private images. I can see where I was mistaken and will correct this article shortly.</p><p>I admit to being a bit simple with the print option, but I was thinking more of people like my mother, who is considering posting some of her paintings and images of her crafts on the Web. The option may be clear to Flickr users but to outsiders and newcomers who aren&#8217;t familiar with the system, the term &#8220;print&#8221; has a different meaning. It might be nitpicky, but I felt it worth mentioning.</p><p>I hadn&#8217;t thought about the use of the term &#8220;No License&#8221; when selecting the license for your image, you are right that it is VERY confusing and I can understand why you get those comments. I agree that &#8220;No CC License&#8221; or just simply saying &#8220;All Rights Reserved&#8221; would be better. &#8220;No License&#8221; is about the WORST thing one can say there.</p><p>In the end, what&#8217;s important to me is not that my solution is the best, but that these issues get addressed and quick. I&#8217;ll admit that my system has flaws, especially since it came from someone familiar with licensing, but I hope that it was a step in the right direction.</p><p>I hope that others, such as yourself, can take it even farther, that&#8217;s why I put it out there&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alpha</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-121287</link> <dc:creator>Alpha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:17:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-121287</guid> <description>I think most people who choose ARR are perfectly OK when their photos are accessed through the API by tools which respect Flickr&#039;s Terms of Service. Having something as &quot;all rights reserved&quot; doesn&#039;t necessarily mean people don&#039;t want it to appear in third party sites. Same goes for the embedding and/or sharing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One correction in your overview of the options - hiding your photostream from site-wide searches on &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com&quot;&gt;flickr.com&lt;/a&gt; does not make your photos private, they are still accessible by everyone who visits your photostream or through the group pools in which the photo is posted (or by typing the URL of the photo directly in the browser). A &quot;private image&quot; on Flickr means an image accessible only by its owner, when logged in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree the account pages are quite overloaded with options that seem to overlap each other and you are right that many of them were introduced piece by piece but I&#039;m not quite sure it would be a good idea to reduce and organize them in the way you suggest&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Also, the &quot;Print&quot; option for me is clear enough because I am aware it&#039;s about using a service, not my own printer. It is useful and it also appears in photo set pages, where you are able to order books, albums, etc. It is not meant as a link to your own printer because hopefully most people know how to print a photo this way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, I&#039;ve been using Flickr for a lot of time and there is a chance my experience skews my judgment about how clear those guidelines are but for me they are clear enough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only thing I find really misleading is the option list for choosing a license where ARR is explained as &quot;No license&quot; (probably they mean &quot;No CC License&quot;). This is absolutely misleading. Most of my images have a CC license attached but on some of the few which are ARR I&#039;ve received comments from users like &quot;Put a license to this photo if you don&#039;t want it to be stolen by someone.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people who choose ARR are perfectly OK when their photos are accessed through the API by tools which respect Flickr&#8217;s Terms of Service. Having something as &#8220;all rights reserved&#8221; doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean people don&#8217;t want it to appear in third party sites. Same goes for the embedding and/or sharing.</p><p>One correction in your overview of the options &#8211; hiding your photostream from site-wide searches on <a
href="http://flickr.com">flickr.com</a> does not make your photos private, they are still accessible by everyone who visits your photostream or through the group pools in which the photo is posted (or by typing the URL of the photo directly in the browser). A &#8220;private image&#8221; on Flickr means an image accessible only by its owner, when logged in.</p><p>I agree the account pages are quite overloaded with options that seem to overlap each other and you are right that many of them were introduced piece by piece but I&#8217;m not quite sure it would be a good idea to reduce and organize them in the way you suggest</p><p> Also, the &#8220;Print&#8221; option for me is clear enough because I am aware it&#8217;s about using a service, not my own printer. It is useful and it also appears in photo set pages, where you are able to order books, albums, etc. It is not meant as a link to your own printer because hopefully most people know how to print a photo this way.</p><p>Of course, I&#8217;ve been using Flickr for a lot of time and there is a chance my experience skews my judgment about how clear those guidelines are but for me they are clear enough.</p><p>The only thing I find really misleading is the option list for choosing a license where ARR is explained as &#8220;No license&#8221; (probably they mean &#8220;No CC License&#8221;). This is absolutely misleading. Most of my images have a CC license attached but on some of the few which are ARR I&#8217;ve received comments from users like &#8220;Put a license to this photo if you don&#8217;t want it to be stolen by someone.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: How Flickr could make the world a better place for copyright &#171; Technography</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/07/11/why-flickr-licensing-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-120566</link> <dc:creator>How Flickr could make the world a better place for copyright &#171; Technography</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:15:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/?p=1297#comment-120566</guid> <description>[...] This issue has been covered in different degrees in various places around the net. One of the most cogent observers has been Jonathan Bailey, in his articles ‘Is Flickr Letting Down its Users?’ and ‘Why Flickr Licensing Fails’. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This issue has been covered in different degrees in various places around the net. One of the most cogent observers has been Jonathan Bailey, in his articles ‘Is Flickr Letting Down its Users?’ and ‘Why Flickr Licensing Fails’. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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