Comments on: Useful Site: Who Is Hosting This

By: 5 Anti-Spam, Anti-Plagiarism Bookmarklets - PlagiarismToday

5 Anti-Spam, Anti-Plagiarism Bookmarklets - PlagiarismToday — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:23:47 +0000

[...] I previously covered WhoIsHostingThis earlier this year, I didn’t mention its very useful bookmarklet, which allows you to click the link on any page [...]

By: Frustration and Fighting Plagiarism - PlagiarismToday

Frustration and Fighting Plagiarism - PlagiarismToday — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:05:31 +0000

[...] Networking is Hard: Assuming one can navigate copyright law and locate an infringement they are prepared to act upon, finding out who to write can be difficult. Determining the host of the site is no easy task in many cases and, though new tools have come forward to help with that, the accuracy can leave something to be desired. [...]

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:45:24 +0000

Redivide: It depends on what Whois you’re talking about. IP whois is much different, and more useful in this case, than domain whois. The latter, however, is more common. It only tells you the name of the person who registered the domain, not where the site is hosted.

Regarding your second statement, that is your opinion. But there is a vast difference to most between the remix and mashup culture than widespread verbatim copying. One shows a great deal of creativity and unique thought, the other shows none. Regarding the difference between Techorati and spam blogs, the difference is more in how they treat the content they use. Technorati, Google and so forth only display small portions and make their living off adding the service of sorting and organizing such data.

Spam blogs, on the other hand, regurgitate entire works and make their living trying to trick the aforementioned search engines. One adds a service to the Web, the other does not. Once again, big difference.

Thank you very much for your comment!

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:45:24 +0000

Redivide: It depends on what Whois you're talking about. IP whois is much different, and more useful in this case, than domain whois. The latter, however, is more common. It only tells you the name of the person who registered the domain, not where the site is hosted.

Regarding your second statement, that is your opinion. But there is a vast difference to most between the remix and mashup culture than widespread verbatim copying. One shows a great deal of creativity and unique thought, the other shows none. Regarding the difference between Techorati and spam blogs, the difference is more in how they treat the content they use. Technorati, Google and so forth only display small portions and make their living off adding the service of sorting and organizing such data.

Spam blogs, on the other hand, regurgitate entire works and make their living trying to trick the aforementioned search engines. One adds a service to the Web, the other does not. Once again, big difference.

Thank you very much for your comment!

By: redivide

redivide — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:11:56 +0000

I always used whois and I’m pretty sure that site does too. No other tools needed!

Plagiarism and content theft do not have the same meaning for me anymore. Mashups are everywhere and the diference between a splog running a RSS import script and technorati.com, for example, seems to me to be an issue of respectability alone.

By: redivide

redivide — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:11:56 +0000

I always used whois and I'm pretty sure that site does too. No other tools needed!

Plagiarism and content theft do not have the same meaning for me anymore. Mashups are everywhere and the diference between a splog running a RSS import script and technorati.com, for example, seems to me to be an issue of respectability alone.

By: Jeremy Steele

Jeremy Steele — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:27:35 +0000

Ah OK, good to know it gets transferred on.

By: Jeremy Steele

Jeremy Steele — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:27:35 +0000

Ah OK, good to know it gets transferred on.

By: Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:05:54 +0000

Jeremy: I’ve actually sent a DMCA notice to ThePlanet regarding a Hostgator server and it worked. The notice was passed on successfully. The law generally holds that whoever owns the server has the responsibility for removing the infringing content from it. If they are leasing the servers to Hostgator, then they are responsible for the content. They might get Hostgator to perform the actual takedown, but that would still make ThePlanet the one to notify.

In the end, I still think that WIHT is correct with with their results in that case. The site itself says that it targets the owner of the server, not resellers, which is what Hostgator essentially is in that case.

However, the nature of the relationship between those two is very confusing to say the least…

By: Jeremy Steele

Jeremy Steele — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:36:44 +0000

Actually I don’t think it was a merger. Host Gator simply leased (a lot) more servers from The Planet’s data centers, but they are still separate companies.

I think The Planet shows up as the provider because they technically own the servers, but the problem is Host Gator is my ISP, not The Planet, so if someone sent a DMCA to them instead of HG it wouldn’t technically be valid, since The Planet and I have nothing to do with one another.

So it depends how you read between the lines, The Planet owns the servers so they could be considered the host, but Host Gator is the one managing and reselling the server resources.

As least as far as I know it wasn’t an official merger. I never got an e-mail about a merger… and that seems like something you’d directly tell your customers. Could be wrong though.