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> <channel><title>Comments on: What the RIAA Judgment Means to Me</title> <atom:link href="http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/</link> <description>Content Theft, Plagiarism, Copyright Infringement</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:31:26 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Why I Don&#8217;t Celebrate The Thomas Ruling - PlagiarismToday</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-123305</link> <dc:creator>Why I Don&#8217;t Celebrate The Thomas Ruling - PlagiarismToday</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:54:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-123305</guid> <description>[...] I think that this is great news for Thomas and I lamented the verdict when it was handed down last year, I&#8217;m not quite ready to celebrate its overturning yet [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I think that this is great news for Thomas and I lamented the verdict when it was handed down last year, I&#8217;m not quite ready to celebrate its overturning yet [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JB</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65636</link> <dc:creator>JB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-65636</guid> <description>Maria,I want to be clear that I am certainly not coming out in favor of copyright infringement or in letting those guilty of it go. That would be suicide both to me as a creative professional and as the Webmaster here.But I have to believe that this woman was given some terrible advice. She clearly did it. She should have taken the deal, spent 3000 dollars and moved on with her life. Instead, largely at the behest of the anti-RIAA movement, she pressed on and now is saddled with nearly a quarter million dollar judgment.I believe that she deserves to be punished and severely, but that amount is unreasonable for someone in her position, especially when she has two kids.I agree that Ms. Thomas did something wrong and needs to be punished. I just think the verdict might be out of balance and that she was set up as a sacrificial lamb.She made poor decisions, but I think her lawyers made the dumbest ones of all...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria,</p><p>I want to be clear that I am certainly not coming out in favor of copyright infringement or in letting those guilty of it go. That would be suicide both to me as a creative professional and as the Webmaster here.</p><p>But I have to believe that this woman was given some terrible advice. She clearly did it. She should have taken the deal, spent 3000 dollars and moved on with her life. Instead, largely at the behest of the anti-RIAA movement, she pressed on and now is saddled with nearly a quarter million dollar judgment.</p><p>I believe that she deserves to be punished and severely, but that amount is unreasonable for someone in her position, especially when she has two kids.</p><p>I agree that Ms. Thomas did something wrong and needs to be punished. I just think the verdict might be out of balance and that she was set up as a sacrificial lamb.</p><p>She made poor decisions, but I think her lawyers made the dumbest ones of all&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JB</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121939</link> <dc:creator>JB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-121939</guid> <description>Maria,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to be clear that I am certainly not coming out in favor of copyright infringement or in letting those guilty of it go. That would be suicide both to me as a creative professional and as the Webmaster here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I have to believe that this woman was given some terrible advice. She clearly did it. She should have taken the deal, spent 3000 dollars and moved on with her life. Instead, largely at the behest of the anti-RIAA movement, she pressed on and now is saddled with nearly a quarter million dollar judgment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that she deserves to be punished and severely, but that amount is unreasonable for someone in her position, especially when she has two kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that Ms. Thomas did something wrong and needs to be punished. I just think the verdict might be out of balance and that she was set up as a sacrificial lamb. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She made poor decisions, but I think her lawyers made the dumbest ones of all...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria,</p><p>I want to be clear that I am certainly not coming out in favor of copyright infringement or in letting those guilty of it go. That would be suicide both to me as a creative professional and as the Webmaster here.</p><p>But I have to believe that this woman was given some terrible advice. She clearly did it. She should have taken the deal, spent 3000 dollars and moved on with her life. Instead, largely at the behest of the anti-RIAA movement, she pressed on and now is saddled with nearly a quarter million dollar judgment.</p><p>I believe that she deserves to be punished and severely, but that amount is unreasonable for someone in her position, especially when she has two kids.</p><p>I agree that Ms. Thomas did something wrong and needs to be punished. I just think the verdict might be out of balance and that she was set up as a sacrificial lamb.</p><p>She made poor decisions, but I think her lawyers made the dumbest ones of all&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Maria</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65627</link> <dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:05:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-65627</guid> <description>As the victim of copyright infringement on a regular basis, I have to agree with Michael. People who knowingly violate copyright law should be punished. They are STEALING the hard work of others. And not only are they stealing for their own personal use, but they&#039;re illegally sharing the property in such a way that the property&#039;s revenue potential for its owner is diminished.It&#039;s clear (and unfortunate) that the recording industry had decided to make an example of Ms. Thomas. A single mother of two is now facing $220K of debt because of her own stupidity. If they&#039;d made their case against someone less likely to gain public sympathy, there wouldn&#039;t be copyright champions like you, Jonathan, sitting on the fence about the case. It would be more clear-cut to the general public.But to me, it IS clear cut. She&#039;s made her bed and has to lie in it. A lesser penalty would not have made the recording industry&#039;s point so well. The way I see it, she&#039;s fortunate: they could probably have gotten a lot more in the judgment if they&#039;d tried.And the lesson being taught is so much stronger: it doesn&#039;t matter who you are or how a penalty will cause a hardship for you. If you get caught, tried, and convicted, you&#039;ll pay. Period. Creative professionals can only hope that this case will act as a deterrent to stop others from stealing their hard work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the victim of copyright infringement on a regular basis, I have to agree with Michael. People who knowingly violate copyright law should be punished. They are STEALING the hard work of others. And not only are they stealing for their own personal use, but they&#8217;re illegally sharing the property in such a way that the property&#8217;s revenue potential for its owner is diminished.</p><p>It&#8217;s clear (and unfortunate) that the recording industry had decided to make an example of Ms. Thomas. A single mother of two is now facing $220K of debt because of her own stupidity. If they&#8217;d made their case against someone less likely to gain public sympathy, there wouldn&#8217;t be copyright champions like you, Jonathan, sitting on the fence about the case. It would be more clear-cut to the general public.</p><p>But to me, it IS clear cut. She&#8217;s made her bed and has to lie in it. A lesser penalty would not have made the recording industry&#8217;s point so well. The way I see it, she&#8217;s fortunate: they could probably have gotten a lot more in the judgment if they&#8217;d tried.</p><p>And the lesson being taught is so much stronger: it doesn&#8217;t matter who you are or how a penalty will cause a hardship for you. If you get caught, tried, and convicted, you&#8217;ll pay. Period. Creative professionals can only hope that this case will act as a deterrent to stop others from stealing their hard work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Maria</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121938</link> <dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:05:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-121938</guid> <description>As the victim of copyright infringement on a regular basis, I have to agree with Michael. People who knowingly violate copyright law should be punished. They are STEALING the hard work of others. And not only are they stealing for their own personal use, but they&#039;re illegally sharing the property in such a way that the property&#039;s revenue potential for its owner is diminished.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s clear (and unfortunate) that the recording industry had decided to make an example of Ms. Thomas. A single mother of two is now facing $220K of debt because of her own stupidity. If they&#039;d made their case against someone less likely to gain public sympathy, there wouldn&#039;t be copyright champions like you, Jonathan, sitting on the fence about the case. It would be more clear-cut to the general public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But to me, it IS clear cut. She&#039;s made her bed and has to lie in it. A lesser penalty would not have made the recording industry&#039;s point so well. The way I see it, she&#039;s fortunate: they could probably have gotten a lot more in the judgment if they&#039;d tried.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the lesson being taught is so much stronger: it doesn&#039;t matter who you are or how a penalty will cause a hardship for you. If you get caught, tried, and convicted, you&#039;ll pay. Period. Creative professionals can only hope that this case will act as a deterrent to stop others from stealing their hard work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the victim of copyright infringement on a regular basis, I have to agree with Michael. People who knowingly violate copyright law should be punished. They are STEALING the hard work of others. And not only are they stealing for their own personal use, but they&#8217;re illegally sharing the property in such a way that the property&#8217;s revenue potential for its owner is diminished.</p><p>It&#8217;s clear (and unfortunate) that the recording industry had decided to make an example of Ms. Thomas. A single mother of two is now facing $220K of debt because of her own stupidity. If they&#8217;d made their case against someone less likely to gain public sympathy, there wouldn&#8217;t be copyright champions like you, Jonathan, sitting on the fence about the case. It would be more clear-cut to the general public.</p><p>But to me, it IS clear cut. She&#8217;s made her bed and has to lie in it. A lesser penalty would not have made the recording industry&#8217;s point so well. The way I see it, she&#8217;s fortunate: they could probably have gotten a lot more in the judgment if they&#8217;d tried.</p><p>And the lesson being taught is so much stronger: it doesn&#8217;t matter who you are or how a penalty will cause a hardship for you. If you get caught, tried, and convicted, you&#8217;ll pay. Period. Creative professionals can only hope that this case will act as a deterrent to stop others from stealing their hard work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JB</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65137</link> <dc:creator>JB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:45:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-65137</guid> <description>Doug: The issue here is not whether or not copying took place. When you obtain copyright in a work you receive a set of exlusive rights to the work, reproduction is just one of those rights. Another, the one that is relevant here, is the right to publicly display or perform the work. The argument isn&#039;t that her &quot;making available&quot; equals copying, that it equals public display and violates that exclusive right.So the beer analogy, though entertaining, is a bit flawed in this case.There is still a valid legal question about whether or not making available constitutes public performance, but if this issue reaches the supreme court, I have a pretty strong feeling they will rule that it is given their track record in this area.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: The issue here is not whether or not copying took place. When you obtain copyright in a work you receive a set of exlusive rights to the work, reproduction is just one of those rights. Another, the one that is relevant here, is the right to publicly display or perform the work. The argument isn&#8217;t that her &#8220;making available&#8221; equals copying, that it equals public display and violates that exclusive right.</p><p>So the beer analogy, though entertaining, is a bit flawed in this case.</p><p>There is still a valid legal question about whether or not making available constitutes public performance, but if this issue reaches the supreme court, I have a pretty strong feeling they will rule that it is given their track record in this area.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JB</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121937</link> <dc:creator>JB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:45:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-121937</guid> <description>Doug: The issue here is not whether or not copying took place. When you obtain copyright in a work you receive a set of exlusive rights to the work, reproduction is just one of those rights. Another, the one that is relevant here, is the right to publicly display or perform the work. The argument isn&#039;t that her &quot;making available&quot; equals copying, that it equals public display and violates that exclusive right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the beer analogy, though entertaining, is a bit flawed in this case. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is still a valid legal question about whether or not making available constitutes public performance, but if this issue reaches the supreme court, I have a pretty strong feeling they will rule that it is given their track record in this area.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: The issue here is not whether or not copying took place. When you obtain copyright in a work you receive a set of exlusive rights to the work, reproduction is just one of those rights. Another, the one that is relevant here, is the right to publicly display or perform the work. The argument isn&#8217;t that her &#8220;making available&#8221; equals copying, that it equals public display and violates that exclusive right.</p><p>So the beer analogy, though entertaining, is a bit flawed in this case.</p><p>There is still a valid legal question about whether or not making available constitutes public performance, but if this issue reaches the supreme court, I have a pretty strong feeling they will rule that it is given their track record in this area.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doug McCaughan</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65102</link> <dc:creator>Doug McCaughan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-65102</guid> <description>To put this in perspective, she is billed $222,000 for making songs available breaking copyright (and if I read the judgment correctly it was &quot;for making them available&quot; not actually distributing anything---that&#039;s like arresting me for possibly providing beer to children because I have a 6 pack in the fridge and people under 21 walk through my house) BUT a school bus driver gets busted for drinking on the job and is fined $482 http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_check=1Glenn Reynolds (http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php) sums it up &quot;One offends a powerful interest group. The other just puts kids at risk.&quot; while summarizing James Lileks: http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put this in perspective, she is billed $222,000 for making songs available breaking copyright (and if I read the judgment correctly it was &#8220;for making them available&#8221; not actually distributing anything&#8212;that&#8217;s like arresting me for possibly providing beer to children because I have a 6 pack in the fridge and people under 21 walk through my house) BUT a school bus driver gets busted for drinking on the job and is fined $482 <a
href="http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_check=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_check=1</a></p><p>Glenn Reynolds (<a
href="http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php" rel="nofollow">http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php</a>) sums it up &#8220;One offends a powerful interest group. The other just puts kids at risk.&#8221; while summarizing James Lileks: <a
href="http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693" rel="nofollow">http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doug McCaughan</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121936</link> <dc:creator>Doug McCaughan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-121936</guid> <description>To put this in perspective, she is billed $222,000 for making songs available breaking copyright (and if I read the judgment correctly it was &quot;for making them available&quot; not actually distributing anything---that&#039;s like arresting me for possibly providing beer to children because I have a 6 pack in the fridge and people under 21 walk through my house) BUT a school bus driver gets busted for drinking on the job and is fined $482 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_check=1&quot;&gt;http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_che...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glenn Reynolds (&lt;a href=&quot;http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php&quot;&gt;http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php&lt;/a&gt;) sums it up &quot;One offends a powerful interest group. The other just puts kids at risk.&quot; while summarizing James Lileks: &lt;a href=&quot;http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693&quot;&gt;http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put this in perspective, she is billed $222,000 for making songs available breaking copyright (and if I read the judgment correctly it was &#8220;for making them available&#8221; not actually distributing anything&#8212;that&#8217;s like arresting me for possibly providing beer to children because I have a 6 pack in the fridge and people under 21 walk through my house) BUT a school bus driver gets busted for drinking on the job and is fined $482 <a
href="http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_check=1"></a><a
href="http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_che.." rel="nofollow">http://www.twincities.com/ci_7094916?nclick_che..</a>.</p><p>Glenn Reynolds (<a
href="http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php">http://instapundit.com/archives2/010264.php</a>) sums it up &#8220;One offends a powerful interest group. The other just puts kids at risk.&#8221; while summarizing James Lileks: <a
href="http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693">http://buzz.mn/?q=node/2693</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: links for 2007-10-07 at My Continuing Adventures in Technology&#8230;</title><link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65078</link> <dc:creator>links for 2007-10-07 at My Continuing Adventures in Technology&#8230;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/10/05/what-the-riaa-judgment-means-to-me/#comment-65078</guid> <description>[...] PlagiarismToday » What the RIAA Judgment Means to Me PlagiarismToday&#8217;s take on the Capito vs. Thomas verdict. Particularly interesting as it is very much a non-partisan view of the case. (tags: capitol thomas riaa copyright court case p2p lawsuit) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PlagiarismToday » What the RIAA Judgment Means to Me PlagiarismToday&#8217;s take on the Capito vs. Thomas verdict. Particularly interesting as it is very much a non-partisan view of the case. (tags: capitol thomas riaa copyright court case p2p lawsuit) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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