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		<title>By: Dar</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-129070</link>
		<dc:creator>Dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old but still relevant article.So videos that make use of movie/tv clips for the purposes of criticism/reviews (assuming the criticism/reviews are interspersed with the clips) are Fair use? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old but still relevant article.So videos that make use of movie/tv clips for the purposes of criticism/reviews (assuming the criticism/reviews are interspersed with the clips) are Fair use?</p>
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		<title>By: dadsaa</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-129060</link>
		<dc:creator>dadsaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Have NO LIFE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: dadsaa</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-128683</link>
		<dc:creator>dadsaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is stupid,you won&#039;t change anything   :) :) :) </description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-131866</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve actually got three separate issues here. The first is the fair use one, the second is the DMCA and the second is YouTube&#039;s TOS. 
 
The fair use issue is difficult to predict but since educators have such great leeway on fair use issues it seems likely you would have clearance here. It would depend n on the specifics of the actual case, but I think you&#039;d likely be starting from a good vantage point, a transformative use for educational benefit, etc. 
 
The DMCA could be an obstacle depending on if YouTube and rightsholders considered the use of YouTube to be a digital lock that is being &quot;circumvented&quot; by you downloading it. Even if you are intending to make a fair use of the work, it might be an infringement of the DMCA.  
 
You can read more about this specific area here:  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/faq.cgi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Finally, you have YouTube&#039;s TOS, which strictly forbids downloading. Even if it is legal under the DMCA and fair use, if you wave those rights under the TOS, it could be a breach of contract and a possible violation of the computer fraud and abuse act. 
 
Though there are questions as to whether a TOS can apply to those who don&#039;t expressly agree to it (IE: Non-registered users) but this is by in large a new area of law that hasn&#039;t been widely tested. 
 
That being said, it doesn&#039;t seem as if YouTube is doing much to stop downloading of their videos. Many sites make the process easy and operate in the open.  
 
Do I think it&#039;s technically legal? I don&#039;t know. Too many hard questions to get a good answer. Do I think you&#039;d ever get in legal trouble for it? Probably not. YouTube doesn&#039;t seem to press the downloading issue and no rightsholder is going to go after you, especially if they gave permission for educational use. 
 
Of course, you could always try to brow beat your IT staff into allowing limited  YouTube usage. But I suppose the odds of that are slim. 
 
Hope this helps! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ve actually got three separate issues here. The first is the fair use one, the second is the DMCA and the second is YouTube&#039;s TOS.</p>
<p>The fair use issue is difficult to predict but since educators have such great leeway on fair use issues it seems likely you would have clearance here. It would depend n on the specifics of the actual case, but I think you&#039;d likely be starting from a good vantage point, a transformative use for educational benefit, etc.</p>
<p>The DMCA could be an obstacle depending on if YouTube and rightsholders considered the use of YouTube to be a digital lock that is being &quot;circumvented&quot; by you downloading it. Even if you are intending to make a fair use of the work, it might be an infringement of the DMCA. </p>
<p>You can read more about this specific area here: </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/faq.cgi" rel="nofollow">http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>Finally, you have YouTube&#039;s TOS, which strictly forbids downloading. Even if it is legal under the DMCA and fair use, if you wave those rights under the TOS, it could be a breach of contract and a possible violation of the computer fraud and abuse act.</p>
<p>Though there are questions as to whether a TOS can apply to those who don&#039;t expressly agree to it (IE: Non-registered users) but this is by in large a new area of law that hasn&#039;t been widely tested.</p>
<p>That being said, it doesn&#039;t seem as if YouTube is doing much to stop downloading of their videos. Many sites make the process easy and operate in the open. </p>
<p>Do I think it&#039;s technically legal? I don&#039;t know. Too many hard questions to get a good answer. Do I think you&#039;d ever get in legal trouble for it? Probably not. YouTube doesn&#039;t seem to press the downloading issue and no rightsholder is going to go after you, especially if they gave permission for educational use.</p>
<p>Of course, you could always try to brow beat your IT staff into allowing limited  YouTube usage. But I suppose the odds of that are slim.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Nansen</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-127519</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Nansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In education we have the opposite issue - there are great videos uploaded by the copyright holder (often other teachers) that are there for us to use in classroom settings. However, many schools block YouTube so that teachers can&#039;t access those videos from their classrooms. 
 
Do educators, using Fair Use, have the right to download these videos to their computer for use in the classroom? 
 
From YouTube&#039;s site: 
Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be downloaded, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In education we have the opposite issue &#8211; there are great videos uploaded by the copyright holder (often other teachers) that are there for us to use in classroom settings. However, many schools block YouTube so that teachers can&#039;t access those videos from their classrooms.</p>
<p>Do educators, using Fair Use, have the right to download these videos to their computer for use in the classroom?</p>
<p>From YouTube&#039;s site:</p>
<p>Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be downloaded, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Nansen</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-131865</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Nansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In education we have the opposite issue - there are great videos uploaded by the copyright holder (often other teachers) that are there for us to use in classroom settings. However, many schools block YouTube so that teachers can&#039;t access those videos from their classrooms.

Do educators, using Fair Use, have the right to download these videos to their computer for use in the classroom?

From YouTube&#039;s site:
Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be downloaded, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In education we have the opposite issue &#8211; there are great videos uploaded by the copyright holder (often other teachers) that are there for us to use in classroom settings. However, many schools block YouTube so that teachers can&#8217;t access those videos from their classrooms.</p>
<p>Do educators, using Fair Use, have the right to download these videos to their computer for use in the classroom?</p>
<p>From YouTube&#8217;s site:<br />
Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be downloaded, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-127524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve actually got three separate issues here. The first is the fair use one, the second is the DMCA and the second is YouTube&#039;s TOS. 
 
The fair use issue is difficult to predict but since educators have such great leeway on fair use issues it seems likely you would have clearance here. It would depend n on the specifics of the actual case, but I think you&#039;d likely be starting from a good vantage point, a transformative use for educational benefit, etc. 
 
The DMCA could be an obstacle depending on if YouTube and rightsholders considered the use of YouTube to be a digital lock that is being &quot;circumvented&quot; by you downloading it. Even if you are intending to make a fair use of the work, it might be an infringement of the DMCA.  
 
You can read more about this specific area here:  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/faq.cgi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Finally, you have YouTube&#039;s TOS, which strictly forbids downloading. Even if it is legal under the DMCA and fair use, if you wave those rights under the TOS, it could be a breach of contract and a possible violation of the computer fraud and abuse act. 
 
Though there are questions as to whether a TOS can apply to those who don&#039;t expressly agree to it (IE: Non-registered users) but this is by in large a new area of law that hasn&#039;t been widely tested. 
 
That being said, it doesn&#039;t seem as if YouTube is doing much to stop downloading of their videos. Many sites make the process easy and operate in the open.  
 
Do I think it&#039;s technically legal? I don&#039;t know. Too many hard questions to get a good answer. Do I think you&#039;d ever get in legal trouble for it? Probably not. YouTube doesn&#039;t seem to press the downloading issue and no rightsholder is going to go after you, especially if they gave permission for educational use. 
 
Of course, you could always try to brow beat your IT staff into allowing limited  YouTube usage. But I suppose the odds of that are slim. 
 
Hope this helps! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ve actually got three separate issues here. The first is the fair use one, the second is the DMCA and the second is YouTube&#039;s TOS.</p>
<p>The fair use issue is difficult to predict but since educators have such great leeway on fair use issues it seems likely you would have clearance here. It would depend n on the specifics of the actual case, but I think you&#039;d likely be starting from a good vantage point, a transformative use for educational benefit, etc.</p>
<p>The DMCA could be an obstacle depending on if YouTube and rightsholders considered the use of YouTube to be a digital lock that is being &quot;circumvented&quot; by you downloading it. Even if you are intending to make a fair use of the work, it might be an infringement of the DMCA. </p>
<p>You can read more about this specific area here: </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/faq.cgi" rel="nofollow">http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>Finally, you have YouTube&#039;s TOS, which strictly forbids downloading. Even if it is legal under the DMCA and fair use, if you wave those rights under the TOS, it could be a breach of contract and a possible violation of the computer fraud and abuse act.</p>
<p>Though there are questions as to whether a TOS can apply to those who don&#039;t expressly agree to it (IE: Non-registered users) but this is by in large a new area of law that hasn&#039;t been widely tested.</p>
<p>That being said, it doesn&#039;t seem as if YouTube is doing much to stop downloading of their videos. Many sites make the process easy and operate in the open. </p>
<p>Do I think it&#039;s technically legal? I don&#039;t know. Too many hard questions to get a good answer. Do I think you&#039;d ever get in legal trouble for it? Probably not. YouTube doesn&#039;t seem to press the downloading issue and no rightsholder is going to go after you, especially if they gave permission for educational use.</p>
<p>Of course, you could always try to brow beat your IT staff into allowing limited  YouTube usage. But I suppose the odds of that are slim.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-125080</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, i&#039;m sorry if i&#039;m not in the right place and/or right time to ask it, but i&#039;m desperately curious. i&#039;ve tried to search the anser via google but no satisfying answer. then i remember about this blog, i typed in the search box above with &quot;manga&quot; --&gt; no result, then i typed &quot;anime&quot; --&gt; here i am now :) I have one blog that mainly served the purpose of collecting manga&amp;anime link download and then put them in my blog. Don&#039;t worry, i didn&#039;t claimed it as mine, i mentioned it per each post  if the credit belongs to the original scanlator/ripper.Is it illegal for doing so?i mean for posting the download links for manga scanlation and/ anime?I don&#039;t know about copyright/DMCA in manga/anime but if it&#039;s a hollywood movie ( for an example ) i&#039;m sure it&#039;s illegal </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, i&#039;m sorry if i&#039;m not in the right place and/or right time to ask it, but i&#039;m desperately curious. i&#039;ve tried to search the anser via google but no satisfying answer. then i remember about this blog, i typed in the search box above with &quot;manga&quot; &#8211;&gt; no result, then i typed &quot;anime&quot; &#8211;&gt; here i am now <img src='http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have one blog that mainly served the purpose of collecting manga&amp;anime link download and then put them in my blog. Don&#039;t worry, i didn&#039;t claimed it as mine, i mentioned it per each post  if the credit belongs to the original scanlator/ripper.Is it illegal for doing so?i mean for posting the download links for manga scanlation and/ anime?I don&#039;t know about copyright/DMCA in manga/anime but if it&#039;s a hollywood movie ( for an example ) i&#039;m sure it&#039;s illegal</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-124804</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be the one to say it, but that is not true. If a site is non-profit, that only affects damages in a courtroom in most cases, not whether it is actually infringing. Since there is infringement, it can be taken down with a DMCA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be the one to say it, but that is not true. If a site is non-profit, that only affects damages in a courtroom in most cases, not whether it is actually infringing. Since there is infringement, it can be taken down with a DMCA.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Chacin</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2007/09/04/why-fair-use-suffers-on-youtube/comment-page-1/#comment-124766</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Chacin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though if your site is no for profit. I don&#039;t think they can take you down for DMCA. But I honestly don&#039;t know. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though if your site is no for profit. I don&#039;t think they can take you down for DMCA. But I honestly don&#039;t know.</p>
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