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		<title>By: PlagiarismToday &#187; Bitacle Update: Some Correspondence</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagiarismToday &#187; Bitacle Update: Some Correspondence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As reader Maria pointed out in her comments to the previous piece about Bitacle, the company Deranet appears in the DNS entries for Bitacle. Though I was suspicious as to whether or not they were the actual host, I decided to email them at the address provided. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As reader Maria pointed out in her comments to the previous piece about Bitacle, the company Deranet appears in the DNS entries for Bitacle. Though I was suspicious as to whether or not they were the actual host, I decided to email them at the address provided. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-122882</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your help. I heard back from yesterday. I didn&#039;t get a chance to post about it but anyone who wants to write to them should send their letter to abuse at ono dot c-o-m. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your help!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sarah,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is important to note that Bitacle is NOT within the letter of the law.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do a search on Technorati or Icerocket for your content. You&#039;ll find that they do not diplay your full content, just snippets of it. Bitacle, under their Aggregates feature, displays all of your content. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Though blog search engines, and regular ones, scrape your content to make it searchable they do not display all of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, Bitacle does not offer an opt out procedure, Technorati and others do. They also adhere to robots.txt, something Bitacle doesn&#039;t do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end, Bitacle may not be displaying ads, thanks in large part to my and other DMCA notices to Adsense, but they are still trying to. If you sign in to an account, you&#039;ll find that Google Adsense code still appears on some of the Aggregates page. It just doesn&#039;t work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s nothing legitimate about Bitacle yet, they have a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Thanks for your help. I heard back from yesterday. I didn&#8217;t get a chance to post about it but anyone who wants to write to them should send their letter to abuse at ono dot c-o-m. </p>
<p>Thank you for your help!</p>
<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>This is important to note that Bitacle is NOT within the letter of the law.</p>
<p>Do a search on Technorati or Icerocket for your content. You&#8217;ll find that they do not diplay your full content, just snippets of it. Bitacle, under their Aggregates feature, displays all of your content. </p>
<p>Though blog search engines, and regular ones, scrape your content to make it searchable they do not display all of it.</p>
<p>Also, Bitacle does not offer an opt out procedure, Technorati and others do. They also adhere to robots.txt, something Bitacle doesn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>In the end, Bitacle may not be displaying ads, thanks in large part to my and other DMCA notices to Adsense, but they are still trying to. If you sign in to an account, you&#8217;ll find that Google Adsense code still appears on some of the Aggregates page. It just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing legitimate about Bitacle yet, they have a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-122881</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay...are they within the letter of the law now with this Bitacle Beta 2.0? Their FAQ (which is still in Spanish--preguntas frecuentes) and poorly translated, states this: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;If you doesn’t publish feed, it won’t be included in the blog’s search. Nevertheless, if you previously has published feed of the site that was indexed, the old entrances will remain in the index, although the new ones aren’t added.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The blog search don’t follow the archives ‘robots.txt’ or META labels like NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I mean, well, it looks now like they&#039;re trying to be Spain&#039;s Technorati...are they within the letter of the law????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay&#8230;are they within the letter of the law now with this Bitacle Beta 2.0? Their FAQ (which is still in Spanish&#8211;preguntas frecuentes) and poorly translated, states this: </p>
<p>&#8220;If you doesn’t publish feed, it won’t be included in the blog’s search. Nevertheless, if you previously has published feed of the site that was indexed, the old entrances will remain in the index, although the new ones aren’t added.</p>
<p>The blog search don’t follow the archives ‘robots.txt’ or META labels like NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, well, it looks now like they&#8217;re trying to be Spain&#8217;s Technorati&#8230;are they within the letter of the law????</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-21027</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, 
 
Thanks for your help. I heard back from yesterday. I didn&#039;t get a chance to post about it but anyone who wants to write to them should send their letter to abuse at ono dot c-o-m.  
 
Thank you for your help! 
 
Sarah, 
 
This is important to note that Bitacle is NOT within the letter of the law. 
 
Do a search on Technorati or Icerocket for your content. You&#039;ll find that they do not diplay your full content, just snippets of it. Bitacle, under their Aggregates feature, displays all of your content.  
 
Though blog search engines, and regular ones, scrape your content to make it searchable they do not display all of it. 
 
Also, Bitacle does not offer an opt out procedure, Technorati and others do. They also adhere to robots.txt, something Bitacle doesn&#039;t do. 
 
In the end, Bitacle may not be displaying ads, thanks in large part to my and other DMCA notices to Adsense, but they are still trying to. If you sign in to an account, you&#039;ll find that Google Adsense code still appears on some of the Aggregates page. It just doesn&#039;t work. 
 
There&#039;s nothing legitimate about Bitacle yet, they have a long way to go. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Thanks for your help. I heard back from yesterday. I didn&#039;t get a chance to post about it but anyone who wants to write to them should send their letter to abuse at ono dot c-o-m. </p>
<p>Thank you for your help!</p>
<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>This is important to note that Bitacle is NOT within the letter of the law.</p>
<p>Do a search on Technorati or Icerocket for your content. You&#039;ll find that they do not diplay your full content, just snippets of it. Bitacle, under their Aggregates feature, displays all of your content. </p>
<p>Though blog search engines, and regular ones, scrape your content to make it searchable they do not display all of it.</p>
<p>Also, Bitacle does not offer an opt out procedure, Technorati and others do. They also adhere to robots.txt, something Bitacle doesn&#039;t do.</p>
<p>In the end, Bitacle may not be displaying ads, thanks in large part to my and other DMCA notices to Adsense, but they are still trying to. If you sign in to an account, you&#039;ll find that Google Adsense code still appears on some of the Aggregates page. It just doesn&#039;t work.</p>
<p>There&#039;s nothing legitimate about Bitacle yet, they have a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-21001</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay...are they within the letter of the law now with this Bitacle Beta 2.0? Their FAQ (which is still in Spanish--preguntas frecuentes) and poorly translated, states this:  
 
&quot;If you doesn&#8217;t publish feed, it won&#8217;t be included in the blog&#8217;s search. Nevertheless, if you previously has published feed of the site that was indexed, the old entrances will remain in the index, although the new ones aren&#8217;t added. 
 
The blog search don&#8217;t follow the archives &#8216;robots.txt&#8217; or META labels like NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW.&quot; 
 
I mean, well, it looks now like they&#039;re trying to be Spain&#039;s Technorati...are they within the letter of the law???? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay&#8230;are they within the letter of the law now with this Bitacle Beta 2.0? Their FAQ (which is still in Spanish&#8211;preguntas frecuentes) and poorly translated, states this: </p>
<p>&quot;If you doesn&rsquo;t publish feed, it won&rsquo;t be included in the blog&rsquo;s search. Nevertheless, if you previously has published feed of the site that was indexed, the old entrances will remain in the index, although the new ones aren&rsquo;t added.</p>
<p>The blog search don&rsquo;t follow the archives &lsquo;robots.txt&rsquo; or META labels like NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW.&quot;</p>
<p>I mean, well, it looks now like they&#039;re trying to be Spain&#039;s Technorati&#8230;are they within the letter of the law????</p>
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		<title>By: milo</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-122880</link>
		<dc:creator>milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powerful response to the Bitacle ballyhoo, but they&#039;ll get for sure another advertiser until they&#039;re closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful response to the Bitacle ballyhoo, but they&#8217;ll get for sure another advertiser until they&#8217;re closed.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-10-19 at [MacStansbury]</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2006-10-19 at [MacStansbury]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bitacle: What’s Next They now serve no ads, now what? (tags: splogs spammers scrappers) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bitacle: What’s Next They now serve no ads, now what? (tags: splogs spammers scrappers) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-122879</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read through their site and I couldn&#039;t find any e-mail address other than the one in their legal statement &quot;ono@ono.en&quot;  Sorry but I don&#039;t have any more time to spend on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through their site and I couldn&#8217;t find any e-mail address other than the one in their legal statement &#8220;ono@ono.en&#8221;  Sorry but I don&#8217;t have any more time to spend on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Interesting developments &#8230; &#171; Stop bitacle.org</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-20652</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting developments &#8230; &#171; Stop bitacle.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PlagiarismToday: Bitacle: What’s Next [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/10/18/bitacle-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-122878</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tend not to trust DNS servers when locating the host. I&#039;ve had some embarrassing incidents around that. In short, many companies get third party DNS providers so that their DNS stays up even if their hosting goes down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find that, generally, the IP address holds the key and a whois on that led me to ono.es. However, this is crucial, that may not be the end of it. It&#039;s possible that Deranet could be a host reselling on the Ono network. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not a big fan of the shotgun approach of dealing with copyright infringement, but sometimes it does pay to whip out the twelve gauge. I&#039;ll go ahead and email them just to be sure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No harm in that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll definitely tap you when and if I get a reply!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frenchy,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to be honest and say I wasn&#039;t so sure myself. There were many variables against us. Still, it was a team effort and we got it done. Now we just have to mop up...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Definitely though, I hope that others will step forward in the future and know that I am here to help if I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria,</p>
<p>I tend not to trust DNS servers when locating the host. I&#8217;ve had some embarrassing incidents around that. In short, many companies get third party DNS providers so that their DNS stays up even if their hosting goes down.</p>
<p>I find that, generally, the IP address holds the key and a whois on that led me to ono.es. However, this is crucial, that may not be the end of it. It&#8217;s possible that Deranet could be a host reselling on the Ono network. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of the shotgun approach of dealing with copyright infringement, but sometimes it does pay to whip out the twelve gauge. I&#8217;ll go ahead and email them just to be sure.</p>
<p>No harm in that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll definitely tap you when and if I get a reply!</p>
<p>Frenchy,</p>
<p>I have to be honest and say I wasn&#8217;t so sure myself. There were many variables against us. Still, it was a team effort and we got it done. Now we just have to mop up&#8230;</p>
<p>Definitely though, I hope that others will step forward in the future and know that I am here to help if I can.</p>
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